What Are You Susceptible To?

Fuck Off Indeed.

A couple of weeks ago, a member of Jack Napier’s channel posed a question to us on Red Evening. While the question was meant more in jest and in a fit of fun, the question had some merit to it.

It went something like this:

“When it comes to the ‘Lose All Hope Crew’ and the ‘We Need A Time Machine Guys,’ which one do you consider to be a bigger threat [to society and/or people in general]?

I vaguely recall answering the question and I think I might have been quick and a little glib. I believe I said that the ‘Time Machine Guys’ were the bigger threat.

For whatever reason, his question has stuck with me until now. I want to expand on it and give it a more proper answer.

The answer to the question of which group is the “bigger threat” is:

“It depends.”

It depends on what you are susceptible to. Where are your blind spots? What are your beliefs and aspirations?

For me the “bigger threat” is still the ‘Time Machine Guys.’ The reason for that is because I grew up with them. Your society, your peer groups, and your culture at large all play a part in what you are susceptible to. For me it was the traditional conservative crowd.

As a side note: There are guys on Twitter that preach useless sayings, such as “Just take her to the dance, man,” and “Wear shoes! Not sneakers!” that would be an absolute hit with the blue pill religious crowd out here in Utah. I’m not kidding when I say that. There are a ton of guys, both young and old alike, who still believe that the way to a woman’s heart, and to her vagina, is to take her to dinner, buy her flowers and candy, take her out dancing (pre-pandemic of course) and then go and get some ice cream before taking her home for the evening, dropping her off, walking her to her door, and then hoping for that goodnight kiss.

I don’t consider the “advice” being doled out by this particular crowd to be “dangerous” per se, but I do find it outdated, useless, and worthless at best.

Back to my point: The trad crowd is more “dangerous” to me because I grew up in it and around it, and when I was younger and more naive, I used to believe in the messages that were being spouted. Those messages haven’t changed, just a newer, younger crowd preaching them today.

The ‘Lose All Hope Crew’ doesn’t really bother me. I’ve never been one to mope around in my misery and wish for someone else to do my heavy lifting. If you want something done right, you have to do it yourself for the most part. Bitching about the way things are doesn’t fix them or make them better and that’s what this particular crowd likes to relish themselves in. I’ve always been a fan of what is possible instead of what isn’t possible so don’t even bother trying. I’m not delusional enough to think that I’m impervious to this crowd’s particular message, but I like to think that I’m pretty close to it. Bitching about my lot in life has never gotten me anywhere except alienated. Nobody likes to be around “that guy.” That, and nobody is coming to save you. If you want to be “saved” you’re going to have to do it yourself.

The world doesn’t owe you, me, or anyone else in it a living. Life sucks sometimes and life isn’t fair. Get over it and play the hand you were dealt. You may not have been blessed with great genetics or money, or whatever else you think genuinely matters, but you still have things going for you and you can still figure out how to survive and thrive with what you have got. It’s what I do.

So I’ve answered the question for myself at least. What about you? Which one are you more susceptible to? If you happen to say “neither,” well then congratulations, you’ve figured out life, emotions, and human behavior. You are truly a rock that is impervious to anything the world can throw at you. You also have a gaping blind spot. You’re going to be susceptible to one or both of these crowd’s messages. Sooner or later one of these guys is going to say something that is going to strike a nerve or ring a bell for you, and that’s when they will own you.

People always assume that it’s only dumb or gullible people that get caught up in the ideology of a cult. Cults come in more flavors than just the religious variety. Both of these crowds could very possibly be considered cults on some level. Many of them have “charismatic” leaders, they both have their own ideologies, they both have their own agendas, and both can totally destroy you if you get caught up in them.

Know your blind spots and your weaknesses. Know what it is that if someone says it, you’ll be more predisposed to listen to them. Know what you are susceptible to. It’s not the messages that you disagree with that will be your undoing, it will be the messages that you want to hear.

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Morality Part 2

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A few days ago, I talked about unfollowing a few dudes, and I touched on morality. I couldn’t quite express myself well enough, as to why it bugs me so much, but then I found this conversation on Twitter. As you can tell, I’ve wiped out the names of all the parties involved to protect their identities.

The original tweet, which I’ve added above, seems to start out innocent enough. The person wants to have a discussion about the Red Pill being “anti-Christian” or not. Now follow my line of thought here carefully…

I think this question is a loaded question. In short, it’s a trap. I don’t believe the OP of the tweet is really looking for a debate, I think the OP is looking for someone to come along and agree with them that the Red Pill is indeed “anti-Christian.” But, let’s have a look at the bio of the author of the tweet shall we?

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Uh oh. The author is Christian. God, family, health. In that order. Plus a pinned tweet that is scripture from the Bible. Okay. So we aren’t really here to have a debate are we? The OP is either looking for confirmation bias, or would most likely throw out anything that doesn’t conform to his or her beliefs.

Moving right along….

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Okay, the OP is stating his or her position that the Red Pill is in fact, “anti-Christian.” Nothing wrong with that except that the Red Pill isn’t an ideology. It’s a praxeology. Basically it is a set of tools to help one navigate through the minefield known as inter-gender dynamics. It doesn’t have dogma or a book of scripture that you follow. The Red Pill is neither moral or immoral. In fact, it is amoral. Much like a hammer or a firearm, the Red Pill is simply a tool. Put a hammer in the hand of a carpenter, and he can build you a home, an office, or any other type of structure that provides comfort and shelter. Put the hammer in the hands of a serial killer and we have death, mayhem, and serious bodily harm. The hammer itself is amoral, it falls back on the user and the user’s intent. Same with the Red Pill. I really wish these guys would stop trying to equate the Red Pill with ideology.

Anyway, let’s go a little further shall we?

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Now we are getting to the heart of the matter. The reply here, mentions what I just talked about, that the Red Pill is a tool. So far, so good. But then we go down a slippery slope with the addition of, “[those] who use it to justify depravity are the issue.” Followed up by the OP replying with, “Now we’re getting somewhere. I was hoping my question would bring out this point.”

This is where I take issue with morality. This is the very message, the very thing that “triggers” me or sets me off.

The OP just revealed what he was looking for. He doesn’t really want a debate, he wants to discuss “depravity.” Of course depravity is going to be defined by his religious beliefs, his scripture, his book. And of course, he is going to be on the side of the righteous and the moral. He’s drawn his line in the sand and he’s on the “right” side of it. Depravity is the issue indeed. But my question is this:

Why is depravity the “issue?” If you are living by whatever moral code that your faith, your church, your god insists upon, what’s the issue? The issue is that other people aren’t living by your faith, your church, your god. That’s the fucking issue.

This is why I don’t follow TradCons on social media. They want to use something that is amoral, in this case, the Red Pill, and put it through their religious belief system. I don’t have a problem with anyone using something like the Red Pill for their own intents and purposes, but let’s not try and push, force, or persuade me to see it in the same light okay?

What you do with the Red Pill is up to you. If you want to use it within your religious belief system in order to find a mate, build and maintain a strong marriage, and have children, by all means please do so. And if you are someone that wants to live a bachelor, playboy lifestyle, never settling down, banging different women on a daily basis, by all means, that’s your right to do so as well.

But when you start speaking of “depravity is the issue,” guess what? Your mask is slipping.

What do you honestly care what I do with my life and how I do it? When did what I do in my own home, behind closed doors, become your business? Guess what? It’s none of your business. Back the fuck off.

Tend to your own family. Tend to your own flock. Stay the fuck out of mine.

Here’s a little scripture for you:

John 8:7

“So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.”

Yes, I’m aware that this particular scripture isn’t about depravity, I know what it means. It still stands for what I’m trying to say here.

One more as food for thought:

Matthew 7:15

“Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.”

Yeah guys, your fucking mask is slipping.

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